The only option is to move forward and down the stairs headed south. Past the door at the bottom of these stairs, the party will meet the Gatekeeper accompanied by three other werewolves. He has been sent by The Lady to offer an opportunity to parley. If the party agrees to parley, he will take them to the Lady of the Forest.
The alternative, of course, is to attack the werewolves. If you fight the Gatekeeper, more werewolves will join him from adjacent rooms total of 7 ordinary, 4 rabid, and 2 shadow , resulting in a very tough battle. Against 13 enemies who can chain knockback and Overwhelm your party, it is best that you have a lot of AoE damage at your disposal, so that you can take them out quickly.
Other than that, a good tactic is to retreat back to the stairs outside the entrance door. There is a glitch at the door threshold that prevents the AI from pathing through it. On PC, you cannot order your party to move to the other side of the door by clicking in the area; you have to take control of each party member and manually move them with the keyboard, one by one. This glitch prevents the werewolves from simply rushing after the party, allowing you to deal with one or a few of them at a time.
If Shale is in the party and you agree to parley she wonders what the point is of speaking with the werewolves. There are three possible outcomes that can be achieved from this point forward, based on choices made in the remaining encounters.
Each outcome can be achieved with varying degrees of finesse and approval changes. The conversation with The Lady of the Forest will explain the origin of the conflict between the werewolves and the Dalish elves: Zathrian cursed into werewolf form a group of human settlers who had murdered his son and raped his daughter.
The werewolves currently in the forest are not the original criminals, but unfortunates who wandered into the forest since. The Lady asks the Warden to bring Zathrian to the chamber so they may talk. On initial parley with the Lady, refuse to bring Zathrian to her and decide to find Witherfang 'the hard way'. The Lady transforms into Witherfang, who attacks along with Swiftrunner and 8 werewolves. Witherfang's howl ability can knock you down so avoid her until you kill Swiftrunner and the werewolves.
If the Gatekeeper is left alive, he will attack with 3 werewolves after Witherfang's group is dealt with. Search this area before taking the exit to the east. Go south up the stairs; Zathrian is waiting in the next room. He thanks you for getting Witherfang's heart and apologizes for lying to you. No matter what you say he says he should get back to the Dalish Camp and invites you to come with him if you say you'll find your own way back, he says he is not letting the heart out of his sight, and you are automatically taken to the Dalish Camp with him and not given the opportunity to kill Zathrian and deal with Lanaya instead.
At the Dalish Camp Zathrian tells you that the heart has cured the hunters. He pledges the elves' support to fight the Blight. She shows you an exit to the surface to the east you can first search this room. When you are ready to see Zathrian take the door to the east. Find Zathrian; he explains that the Lady is actually Witherfang and shows no remorse for creating the curse.
He says he will only go to see the Lady if you safeguard him from harm. Return to the Lady of the Forest with Zathrian. During their conversation, the Lady reveals that Zathrian used his own blood to create the curse. Because of this, as long as the curse remains, Zathrian also remains alive. His death will not end the curse, however. When Zathrian meets the Lady of the Forest, he will eventually say "See? They turn on you as quickly. Do what you have come here to do, Grey Warden, or get out of my way.
Zathrian attacks and summons 2 greater shades and 3 wild sylvans. During this fight Witherfang, Swiftrunner and the werewolves are paralyzed. A dispel magic effect e. Mana Clash is particularly effective against Zathrian. Aside from dispelling the paralysis on Witherfang and the werewolves, the most effective strategy here is to focus fire on Zathrian, ignoring all other enemies, since the fight is ended when his health reaches 0.
Glyph of Neutralization may be used to interrupt his casting briefly, but will result in him using Blood Magic as with most enemy mages encountered in the game , which simply adds Blood Wound , an extremely dangerous spell, to his toolbox.
Alternatively, another good strategy is to have the entire party quickly run into one of the side hallways to the left and right of the map. Zathrian always casts Blizzard into the middle of the room, and this will prevent him from chasing after the party.
The wild sylvans will also take heavy damage from the blizzard because of their low movement speed. This should give you time to take out the two shades, then the wild sylvans if they are still alive. During this time, Zathrian will simply attack the paralyzed werewolves in the room. After the fight, Zathrian will agree to lift the curse, sacrificing himself and the Lady of the Forest Zathrian's body disappears.
The werewolves transform back to humans and leave the forest. Return to the Dalish Camp. Lanaya, the new Keeper, tells you that "the curse is over, and no one else will be subjected to it. The Lady transforms into Witherfang and attacks along with Swiftrunner and 8 werewolves. Attack Swiftrunner and the werewolves before attacking Witherfang; Zathrian can keep Witherfang busy for most of the fight, but he may use Cone of Cold and may accidentally freeze you.
User Info: Foggydog1. That's a lie, I killed my parents. User Info: EndofEternityxx. You can kill them both. Soaring through the air majestically.
Like an eagle User Info: trejodunesea. The choice is more complicated than just letting one or the other live. Do what you feel like doing. User Info: Swkena. I only ever used the mages in the last battles. Either by killing them or by killing Zathrian, or in my case, by reasoning with them to give up their lives for the greater good. I've found no hint of even uniting them. Are the various conversations mutually exclusive or do you have to choose the right options at all of the various conversations for the diplomatic choice to appear?
User Info: JulianDark. Even if you want to go the "both" way you will still have to fight zathrian, it's not possible to achieve it peacefully. Ya, I just figured that now, I figured I'd go through with it and see if I could talk some sense into Zathrian after I beat the old sense out and I did. Still, woulda been nice to hvae Werewolves in my army. Mages casting spells, Templars holding the front, elves firing arrows into the masses, werewolves flanking from the sides.
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Zathrian was was only punishing that group he cursed out of sheer hatred and even mentioned that atrocity was so long ago. I elected to lure Zathrian into the lair and kill him.
Such a madman. When i came to the Dalish camp, I so knew that i would join with the Werewolfes, until i talked with Witherfang and saw how much she wanted the Curse gone. Ahh this brings back memories of chunking Keldorn and Valygar for trying to lay a hand on my waifuer I mean for trying to attack Viconia in Baldurs Gate II. When this happend to me my Sten was so good or my char bad that I had troubles beating him even after taking his items off. Do you have some kind of combat mod installed?
The funniest thing is, the text in the codex about Sten, when you say he must go! Or is this just that funny situation when I help all of these elves with their personal problems and make their lives better just to kill them all with hot babe and her and now mine werewolves. I think it pretty much depend on what type of werewolves they are, I mean if they look like the ones in Dragon Age origins probably PETA would stand with them, as they look more like animals all the time, but if they were more like those in Skyrim or the Witcher, meaning they can change between being a human and a wolf they would probably be on their own.
Looking forward for the next episode! In my ending to this quest I found out it was the elf leader guy that made them how they are and the only way to lift the curse is to kill him so in my game he agreed to kill himself. On a side note, that phoenix armor is awesome looking. Nice video. I was wondering how did you get them to side with you.
I have tried to do it but they do not agree with my persuasion. Here is what I did: bring Zathrian to the wolves and kill him. Then kill the werewolves. I hate that Sten. Since he admitted he did murder a family of 8, including children! I did not want to give up any party members to have him along. I did go to talk to the Rev. Mother which plus-favoured me with Leliana anyway, but I agreed with the Rev. Only one small child was able to hide and saw the whole horror and lived to tell.
The killer admits it himself and says his only absolution will be to forfeit his own life. I have been playing this game for many years. You fuck Ghenya and Cammen and then you either killed them or let them turn into werewolves…talk about sadistic fetishes. Did this in one of my playthrough, but somehow felt so bad afterwards, camp looked so dead…Emotionless? Zahrian deserved it partly, but other innocent people?
They just followed bad leader…. Werewolves were powerful allies. The Templars were a bit squishy for some reason despite all the runes i gave them. They, and all of their descendants! Gotta love how many people at the end of each major area go insane with some paths… Bhelan, Zathrian, Loghaine, anyone else..? FacelessIdol I end up saving before making the decision, picking the bad side, then reloading and going paragon. ShallowGaming Your cunning level effects it as well.
Full coercion ought to do it. The Urn of Sacred Ashes, for instance. Have you got all four points in Coercion? If i do the same things i will get: Swiftrunner: I do not trust this plan, we could be betrayed.
Lady of the forest: Get Zathrian and keep the elves alive…. My favorite outcome is to kill the werewolves, after curing them. Giving them hope before cutting them down, and the Dalish in a bad spot with a murdered keeper.
The desperate fight with the wolves trying to defend in plain clothes human form unarmed is amazing. So you get a much smaller army of monsters that multiply by spreading their infection to innocent bystanders and attack primarily by clawing and biting, placing them at heightened risk from the darkspawn taint? Siding with Zathrian is actually starting to make a lot of sense.
I kill werewolves and then Zathrian. Am I the only one who wished they brought back desire demons in DAI? So eager to play with his new lady friend and a dozen of fresh elven meat. I like yhe subtitles on. I bought the standard version just mon.
The cutscene with you standing there, gone rogue, next to Witherfang while those bitchy elves are shredded makes me laugh every time. Anyone know any fixes…. But if werewolf reallysuck because of the number, then….
So there are no more werewolves in the Dragon age world if you reconciliate them? Too bad, I always liked werewolves twilight does not count. I think rights for the weres would depend upon how they act. But in aside from that, love to see you back on this again. I love this series. But then I guess he could also just be stating what he could possibly learn when you ask him about his skills before taking him along. Did the same with the Golem mission too. I had no clue!!!!
Werewolves kick ass. All those people claiming their opinion is the right one.
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